World Government Prophecy Convergence: The Daniel 4 Super Tree

World Government Prophecy Convergence: The Daniel 4 Super Tree

Updated Except from Daft 2 Epic Judgment Downfall of Jehovah’s Witnesses; Section 5; March 2020

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Daniel 4 Global “Super Tree”

  • Daniel 4 is the comprehensive “timed prophecy” principle and framework into which all human history will eventually be gauged by; 

  • Daniel 4’s Super “Tree”, which began in the divinely permitted but ultimately rejected “chopped down” human “tree” rulerships at key historic judgments past, and future, encompasses both the “gentile times” and also the divine “Israel” developments as parallel, as they have been vying and paralleling in human history towards the “Sprout” Christ takeover of the rulership as the Immortal Super “Tree” of prophecy. (Zech3:8)

  • Daniel 4’s Super “Tree”, thus provides the all encompassing prophecy framework as “gentile power” is tracked in structured sovereign prophecy by description and Daniel 12 “appointed timings” to the “8th King” World Government “tree” to be “chopped down” in the future, for the “sprout” Christ takeover of the “Kingdom of the World” rulership as the Immortal Super “Tree” which the preserved human national “rootstock” will be restored into. 

  • Daniel 4 has sovereign principles which apply to the 2520 years, which in 1914 started the Revelation 11 2520 days as literally “two witnessings” from the 1914-1918 1260 days past,  which must be completed in the 1260 days futurefor 2520 days of then the fully completed “seven times of Revelation 11 in its final proclaimed information (Rev10:5-7), now regarding the Christ Messianic Kingdom co-completion of the future, parallel again, with that of “8th King” “King North” “King Fierce” World Government progress to now completion. 

  • Daniel 4 as the “Mother of All Prophecies”, sets the “seven times” principle which manifests in a number of overall prophecies which all complete into the end of Christ’s Kingdom one thousand year reign for the human immortality determining judgment by God (Rev22:14), at the final release of Satan from the abyss and its temptation-based testing of perfect “stand-alone” humans of that time;

  • The Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:32-35 Governing Body and Jehovah’s witnesses final-apostasy signaling anti-1914 campaign of known error in their “gentile times” teachings will be rectified to reflect the “appointed times of the nations” to be BABYLON “gentile power” benchmarked on the ascension of Babylon in the 609-605 BCE era, which eventually led to the 586 BCE Jerusalem destruction “chopped down” event, and eventually the 539 BCE “fall of Babylon” also “chopped down” by the Christ picturing Cyrus the Great and Medo-Persia. From there the 586 BCE to 516 BCE “seven times” as seventy years to the second Jerusalem Temple completion is easy to ascertain for its future temple completion meaning in Christ.

  • Daniel 4’s “clockwork gentile times“, of all “seven times” “appointed times” prophecies in the Bible, underpins the entire prophetic “appointed times of the nations” [as plural], as the main principle of how Christ’s Kingdom “comes down from heaven” for the Revelation 21-22 earthly-restoration in the “Kingdom of the World” “re-creation” (Matt19:28) period upon the same Daniel 4 global “Super Tree” meanings, then forward into the eventual comprehensive immortality purpose of God’s “will done on Earth” (Rev22:14), also “as in [Immortal] Heaven” over the whole Immortal Super Tree process;

  • Just as all prophecy parallels in Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Daniel 8, Daniel 11-12, Ezekiel 38-39 and Revelation 13 and Revelation 17 in the final “gentile” nationalism-to-globalism world government climax convergence of all national world power of the future, Daniel 4’s sovereign principle of the divine timed limit of rival earthly rulership is the all encompassing “timed prophecy”, as it envelops and connects to all other smaller timed prophecies to the one outcome.

  • Daniel 4 outlines the sovereign destiny of “chopped down” human rulership “tree” “in the midst of the Earth” in its planetary destiny, as connected to Jesus Christ as the King of kings and “Ultimate Super-Angelic Watcher” from God Almighty, who will rule this world unto God’s total Supreme Sovereign official restoration. (1Cor15:24-28; Rev22:5) Thus, forever ends the “gentile trampling” period as the Christ arrival foes into complete Messianic Kingdom rulership henceforth.

  • Daniel 4’s “gentile times” provides the overall “seven times”-based framework for the epic final cycle timings in relation to Daniel 8:14’s coming temple judgment, and the final ministry period 1260 days of Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, and Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:14 and Revelation 13:5-7 of the future, unto the completed “8th King” world government period of Daniel 7:26, Daniel 12:11, and into the Christ arrival sheep-sweep completion for the whole 1290 days period, unto his conquest of Daniel 12:12. 

  • All these prophecies manifest in the future to Christ’s Kingdom rule as in Daniel 4’s human-national “rootstock” related band-releasing for the Christ “sprout”, now parallel with the future “chopping down” the “8th King” World Government rejected “Tree” “in the midst of the Earth”, and taking over that Revelation 11:15 parallel “Kingdom of the World” “Super Tree” for the re-creation of Matthew 19:28 (Rev21-22), which will also continue through Christ’s Millennium as “appointed time” guided by God through Christ, and on into forever and ever. (Rev22:5)

(Revelation 22:5) Also, night will be no more, and they have no need of lamplight nor [do they have] sunlight, because Jehovah God will shed light upon them, and they will rule as kings forever and ever.

Daniel 4:10-17

(Daniel 4:10-17) Now the visions of my head upon my bed I happened to be beholding, and, look! a tree in the midst of the earth, the height of which was immense. 11 The tree grew up and became strong, and its very height finally reached the heavens, and it was visible to the extremity of the whole earth. 12 Its foliage was fair, and its fruit was abundant, and there was food for all on it. Under it the beast of the field would seek shade, and on its boughs the birds of the heavens would dwell, and from it all flesh would feed itself. 13 “‘I continued beholding in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, look! a watcher, even a holy one, coming down from the heavens themselves. 14 He was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: “CHOP the tree down, and cut off its boughs. SHAKE off its foliage, and scatter its fruitage. Let the beast flee from under it, and the birds from its boughs. 15 However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth, even with a banding of iron and of copper, among the grass of the field; and with the dew of the heavens let it be wet, and with the beast let its portion be among the vegetation of the earth. 16 Let its heart be changed from that of mankind, and let the heart of a beast be given to itand let seven times pass over it. 17 By the decree of watchers the thing is, and [by] the saying of holy ones the request is, to the intent that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that to the one whom he wants to, he gives it and he sets up over it even the lowliest one of mankind.”

Daniel 4 Super Tree

How The Ministry Was Lost in Jehovah’s Witnesses

Daniel 4’s prophecy from times well before Jehovah’s witnesses, lit the fuse to “Har-Magedon”. The most basic news of the truth that “there is only so much time” for the rulers of this world was also set.

Daniel 4 was the first major mega-prophecy ever understood.

It is the one structured prophecy from the Charles Russell era which has been retained. 

It arose in a non-religious context as many “bible students” actually strove to remain unlabelled as far as a corporation which branded a “religion”.

By the time of 1914 and the passing of Russell in 1916, the time for world events from the “7th King” Anglo- American national-alliance system had arrived. That is why after WW1, in 1919, when they rolled out their “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in the globalist-elite Anglo-American “new world order” fronting “League of Nations” it set alarms off for awake prophecy students.

1. Thus, from 1919 to the 1920s, the non-religious International Bible Students identified the watershed Revelation 13:11-15 “image of the wildbeast” application in that 1919 League of Nations arrival which defined the Daniel 12:11 “place the disgusting thing” with a 1918 deposed ministry, of that time period.

Thus, Jehovah’s witnesses inherited a very advanced prophecy framework. Any who could not move along with the renewed focus that God also had a “will” for planet Earth and humans, and that prophecy was very real for modern times, remained in the dark with Christendom, who instead endorsed the wildbeast “image” League of Nations.

Moving forward in the Christian mission meant now, applying prophecy to world power reality in the face at that time, live and real-time. Now the structured prophecies from the time of Babylon which fizzled in Rome, had a “new kid in town” in the Anglo-American ascendant global system forming.

2. Soon, the Anglo system lead “small horn” globalist-engineers had dragged America into their new global “7th King” juggernaut heading into the “8th King” “image” war with God, in time, with America’s avowed wildbeast participation in the United Nations after WW2 also resolved the “sword-stroke” cycle peacefully. (Rev13:3) 

And Jehovah’s witnesses were then there to apply that globalist “image” to Revelation 17:8-11 in 1945, even before.

*** Revelation Grand Climax chap. 34 pp. 247-248 pars. 5-6 An Awesome Mystery Solved ***

By 1942 it had become a has-been. Neither before this nor at some later date—but right at that critical time—did Jehovah interpret to his people the full depth of meaning of the vision! At the New World Theocratic Assembly (September 18, 1942), N. H. Knorr could declare, in line with the prophecy, that “the wild beast is not.” He then asked the question, “Will the League remain in the pit?” Quoting Revelation 17:8, he answered: “The association of worldly nations will rise again.” That is just how it proved to be—in vindication of Jehovah’s prophetic Word!

Ascending out of the Abyss

6 The scarlet-colored wild beast did indeed climb out of the abyss. On June 26, 1945…

As time wore on, eventually brothers within Jehovah’s witnesses started to check the histories backing their prophecy interpretations, especially the one applied to the Daniel 4 Super Tree, the “appointed times of the nations” mother of all prophecies. Very serious problems were found.

At the same time of the ministerial luxury period, the WTBTS “board of directors” gradually developing since 1944, decided that they should be the head authorities in 1976, to fully override the ministerial leading president. All those scandals were actually an affront on Christ, and from there a plummet into slumber, stall, and distraction ensued as seen in hindsight.

3. By the time 1990 came with its THIRD United nations globalist-system presentation as Daniel 11:31b parallel Daniel 8:23, the WTBTS so-called “Governing Body” already had formed a legacy of laziness and stalwart unwillingness to actually “study hard” in regard to prophecy and modern world events. 

Instead, like Christendom had done in the 1919 era, they recognized the United Nations third event as something better to bed down with for future prosperity as a UN NGO boot-licker for their globalist masters. (Matt24:15; Dan11:32a)

The well meaning over-interpretation projects of Fred Franz were also premature in national-system application to prophecies in Daniel. Daniel 8 and Daniel 11:27-45 are globalist-elite Anglo-American based world government propheciesnow in progress.

All in all, that 1945 to 1990 post-Rutherford period was a downward spiral as far as prophecy vigilance and even spirituality, as Jehovah’s witnesses devolved more and more into an “auto-pilot” drone off the edge of the abyss into now globally known lawlessness. Now the fossil remains of what Jehovah’s witnesses [used to be], is all that remains, as that fossil now slapped on a Governing Body invented “end of the world” final chapter as their final say on the matter.

4. Now identifying “8th King” World Government to be part of the fourth United Nations related event of the future, is fully off Jehovah’s witnesses radar, they do not even have a prophecy radar anymore.

Moreover, Jehovah’s witnesses have battered 1914 into a global laughing stock.

At the same time, brothers were kicked out of Bethel for wanting to rectify that prophecy, while Daniel 4’s “gentile times” continued to be set in the concrete of now well known chronological error.

That main chronology error, is in relation to the WTBTS date+event assumption that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BCE by the Russians. I mean Babylonians. But, that is how badly Jehovah’s witnesses have undermined the Daniel 4 prophecy. It might as well also be the Klingons who destroyed Jerusalem in “stardate 607000.83”, (in 607 BCE) as the fictional date for that event is just as far out of touch with any reality.

As all actual accurate history attests, Jerusalem was indeed destroyed in 587-586 BCE.

Thus, as Jehovah’s witnesses also ensconced themselves in a “true religion” based “religious system” which is of true Babel in origins, they also have a Babel-borne Governing Body tyrant-clergy religious-corporate device, like Christendom uses, to lead them and their “theocratic organization” blasphemous idol, into this dead end stall, complacency, and ultimate ruin as a a ministry. (Dan8:13-14)

Now, the most farsighted ministry of its time, due to the intense study of prophecy in the IBSA, is now a ministry that has not even recognized the reality of globalization in the world or in prophecy in Revelation 16:13-16. Thus, what it is leading to in the future: world government; is also fully unknown to Jehovah’s witnesses. And thus, Jehovah’s witnesses monopolize what they did have in progressive prophecy study and awareness into a dead end ex-communication-enforced stall, all by means of their 1976 empowered Governing Body Tyrant experiment. It now leads and is the final apostasy. (Dan11:32a)

Now, something has to give. And that will be Jehovah’s witnesses going down in the temple judgment of Daniel 8:13, now in the implied temple profaned “wrong condition”, as the whole Daniel 8:13-14 prophecy must desolate their ministry in a timed judgment, and account their apostasy as Revelation 8’s final cycle fulfillment inception events.

But, now if we do study prophecy since Jehovah’s witnesses went silent after 1945 and into more error in 1958 with erred Daniel interpretations, all the required pieces to complete the prophecy on globalization-based world government “8th King” now in progress to the future, can now be “found”.

Even the apostasy of Jehovah’s witnesses shows up in the same prophecies they undermine in Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-35. To Jehovah’s witnesses, it is as if the whole Christian mission and prophecy since Christ arrived is meaningless and that it should all also devolve into a dead-end “end of the world” “end all meaning”, like with the Jehovah’s witnesses apostasy. Finally, Jehovah’s witnesses have a prophecy “the end” world view which is like that of much of Christendom’s “Armageddon doomsday” final chapter. It is all the same now.

Christ is not meaningless, and neither is his main prophecy from God. This is why a “second witnessing” to reaffirm the prophecy is required.

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN (1260 days more) with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

And now if:

1. Every prophecy can be detailed in every line of symbology meaning applied to globalism and world government today;

2. And it can all be cross-referenced in its entirety in every line of prophecy across the entire Bible, with zero contradictions;

3. And if it can all also rectify and honor, the 1914-1926 first Daniel 12 fulfillment cycle in that “first witnessing” of 1260 days, and its parallel Revelation meanings as one whole, merely now REPEATING in the future as Daniel 11:41-45 merges into Daniel 12’s final prophecy timed periods in the future;

Then,  as this analysis does all that, it cannot be “made up” by a human. Rather, it is what it is.

Only a totally “more complete” explanation needs to be presented. As in the past, various “cherry picked” “problems”, which allow the critique to recede back into the detour those “problems” have created for centuries in Christendom (and now in isolationist “doctrinal unity”-bound  Jehovah’s witnesses), cannot actually offer a valid criticism. A larger more exact and complete explanation would have to be presented in EVERY sovereign, temple, and millennial prophecy, as this one does, while respecting the “first witness” truth of 1914.

That will never happen.

Daniel 4 “Seven Times” Principle Meanings

Now the 2520 years is completed as the Daniel 4 “seven times” meaning for this age. Now that Christ did assume the Kingship from God, in God’s Kingdom, that did end the “gentile trampling” phase, but NOT on Earth until after the Revelation 11 2520 days as “seven times” also completes, in the future.

(Daniel 2:44-45) “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom (the Messianic Kingdom of Christ) that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; 45 forasmuch as you beheld that out of the mountain (of God’s Kingdom) a stone (Messianic Kingdom) was cut not by hands, and [that] it crushed (world government whole “immense image”) the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The grand God himself has made known to the king what is to occur after this. And the dream is reliable, and the interpretation of it is trustworthy.”

But, since Christ is not ruling Earth from God’s Kingdom as well, but from the “set up a kingdom” future completed Messianic Kingdom “stone” “cut from a mountain” (Dan2:44), the Revelation 11 “seven times” is now to be applied as the human heavenly-anointed Christian “body of the Christ” is also yet to complete. (Rev7:1-8; Rev14:1)

Thus, when that Revelation 11 2520 days completes, the future “chop the tree down” is going to apply to Christ’s future conquest upon the “8th King” Tree” of rival World Government, and “cease the trampling” forever, as led there by 2520 days as “seven times” of “two witnesses” warning. 

And in parallel in principle, the “banding release” of the iron band is now to “grow” in the Christ “sprout” as the Last Adamic “rootstock” of all humanity to be restored into the reign of Christ’s “Kingdom of the World“.

1. Now the “Gentile Times” 2520 Years from 607 BCE to 1914 CE timing and meaning, is completed. But, it can be reaffirmed in the “last witnessing” upon the final rectified prophecy explanation, out of the current apostasy of Jehovah’s witnesses as that obstacle is to be “chopped down” in the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment, in temple principle of a priesthood apostasy. (Zech3:1-5)

2. Now the Revelation 11 “seven times” completing 1260 days “second witnessing” can be proven  as the “seven times” = 2520 days of “two” 1260 days “witnesses”, 1260 days past in 1914-1918 combined with 1260 days future “witnesses”.

3. Now the 1914 inclusive Revelation 11 “seven times” related overall 120 years of Genesis 6:3 can be speculatively outlined since 1914, to 2034.

Including 1914 as the start year, now the “seven times” = 119 years as a 7 X 17 years, to arrive at the end of 2033, to start 2034, with an unknown event(s) marking that prophecy-year.

The 120 years is to the end of 2034 in this speculation, with the possibility of the Daniel 12:11 Christ arrival 1290 days extension, since it is a certain global open salvation offer 1290 days “salvation parousia” phase. (Rev14:6-7)

4. Now the Christ required seven years Kingdom Ministry Completion (Matt24:14), can be set on the same “seven times” [principle].

Now, the final “King of Jerusalem” as the “Son of David”, arrives for the King of kings coronation of Christ in the completed Messianic Kingdom. And that has to be in that Daniel 12:11 final timeframe. Now the 3.5 years of Christ’s first ministry combined with the 3.5 years in the Daniel 12:11 1290 days of his future ministerial completion, is seven years as “seven times” overall.

5. Now Christ’s Open Salvation “Week” can be established with its also “seven times” principle as “seven times”=”1 week” of years to complete the Genesis 7:4 literal week principle of warning, and the Daniel 9:27 “week” in one final seven year span in the future. That “week of open salvation” is defined by the Daniel 12:7 1260 days and the Daniel 12:11 1290 days as the final “week of seven years” unto the Christ Kingdom Conquest which date is unknown.

Though there are more “seven times” principles to be derived from Adamic history in the fall, and the prophecy features of a number of prophecies and Bible histories, those are the ones which will be applicable to the final 1260 days ministry of the future. 

This is because the 2520 years which ended in 1914, also began the 2520 days in that same 1914 year.

1914-1918 began the “first witness” 1260 days of the required “two witnesses” for the “final witnesses” 1260 days of the future. 

That Revelation 11 2520 days is the final “seven times” to lead into the New Jerusalem King arrival and coronation of the future, which ceases the “gentile trampling” [actually on earth] now, after Christ’s open salvation 1290 days of Daniel 12:11 expires.

(Revelation 11:2) But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months

(Luke 21:23-24) For there will be great necessity upon the land and wrath on this people; 24 and they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times (plural) of the nations are fulfilled. (now including the Revelation 11 2520 days as “seven times”)

Christ can then be in Messianic Kingdom co-completed “presence” “in the midst of his enemies” with the co-completed rival “8th King” World Government in the Daniel 12:11 1290 days, which that final warning “witness” 1260 days expires into. (Rev11:7-12; Ps110:2)

That is now the most important Daniel 4 “seven times” connection.

The Daniel 4 to Revelation 11 2520 Days “Seven Times”

Daniel 4 is the largest timed prophecy overview not only in time length, and sovereign conflict theme, but also in its seven times principle of applications. Its application is so extensive it requires its own study here in the Daniel 4’s “Tree in the Midst of the Earth” Symbolic Meaning—Parts 1-5 book.

Daniel 4 is also the most general prophecy description as far as supporting extended meanings by its symbolic simplicity and “seven times” flexibility for God’s timed-purposed prophecies.

Daniel 4 applies to the world system upon the same “tree” which applied to both  Nebuchadnezzar’s rule (seven years), and his Babylon dynasty (seventy years), being rejected temporarily and permanently respectively, which also had a parallel to the “tree” rulership-rejection of Israel’s house apostasy (for 2520 years), at the same time.

That now also spiritually extends not just to 1914, but to today and into the future (via Revelation 11, explained below).

In fact, the corporate religious-gentile renegades, who have now besieged Jehovah’s witnesses “temple”, are further proof these modern day “Babylonians” are very hard at work even today.

(Ezekiel 8:7-9) Accordingly he brought me to the entrance of the courtyard, and I began to see, and, look! a certain hole in the wall. 8 He now said to me: “Son of man, bore, please, through the wall.” And I gradually bored through the wall, and, look! there was a certain entrance. 9 And he further said to me: “Go in and see the bad detestable things that they are doing here.”

Jehovah’s witnesses also have major errors in chronological “gentile times” fabricated 607 BCE meanings, which their stubborn-apostate rogues keep in place to attempt to demolish the 1914 prophecy for their King North globalist-chums of Daniel 11:32a modern note.

(Daniel 11:32) And those (Jehovah’s witnesses) who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, [King North] (Globalist-System) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (from the Governing Body “King North” placed apostasy leadership of the WTBTS)

That operation of brain-dead coma IN the WTBTS is what maintains their fictional Jerusalem destruction dating. Then those WTBTS CEO GB-Tyrants expel everyone who tries to make Jehovah’s witnesses think, even though, now with the research ease of the Web, the problem can be fixed. It is but more evidence, like “Christendom” before them, the WTBTS has fossilized into the final apostasy instead. (Dan8:11-14; Dan11:30-35)

Once that ministry is downed from its own mouth and works, the real Daniel 4 2520 years historic solution, will be fully proven upon the same dating, but with the correct historic Daniel 4 real “gentile times” history-affirmed events.

Because the prophecy REPEATS upon the exact same 1914-1926 Daniel 12 master pattern and its seven times updated significance, it can be known BEFORE it all unfolds. In fact, it has to be known in this manner for the final cycle.

That clarification of a whole series of final needed updates, will form part of the basis of the final 1260 days ministry of the future, which will also begin its own “seven times” completion mission. Now the “baby” can be saved, while dumping the putrid WTBTS “bathwater”! (Rev8:10-11)

The prophetic “gentile resistance” like Babylon, and the “defector priests” like Israel, continue in this prophetic parallel with the modern Jehovah’s witnesses mega-apostasy, which just helps prove the Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-35 apostasy features Jehovah’s witnesses now terminally fulfill, which timed proof of the coming Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment will aid the final warning. (Rev11:3)

This formation of the “content” of the future 1260 days “little scroll” “final witnessing” ministry (Rev10-11:1-7), is also necessary because Daniel 4’s 2520 years which did end in 1914, also began the 2520 days prophecy of Revelation 11 in that same 1914 year, which is no coincidence.

Thus, the “seven times” completing final 1260 days of the future, can then unfold with the entire prophetic evidence (Rev10:5-7), and the crashed JW ministry, as further Daniel 8:13-14 timed proof, to aid the final ministry.

Daniel 4 will now be reviewed here as it applies to:

The true “end of the gentile times” as Revelation 11’s “two” 1260 days “witnesses” completes as 2520 days in the futureas the finale “seven times” combined total 2520 days and “seven years” from the 1914-1918 1260 days “first witness” ministry and the future “final witness” ministry 1260 days. 

(Later, a brief total overview of Daniel 4 will be reviewed)

1. The coming 1260 days of the “last witnessing” in the future (Rev10:11; Rev11:2-3) , also completes that “seven times” principle, as the “time, times, and half a time” REPEATS for 1260 days “final witness”, 42 months final “holy city trampled”, in the future.

More “Seven Times” in the Future Open Salvation “Week” and the Christ Seven Year Ministerial Completion

That future period completed for a “seven times” required totality also completes those prophecies of Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:14, and Revelation 13:5-7 as parallel in the future.

That is why the 3.5 times incomplete number as “time, times, and half a time” has to be a completed 7, “seven” “times. And that is why the 1260 days and 42 months symbolic time signatures which parallel the “time, times, and half a time” also complete as 2520 days and 84 months: “seven times” completion parallel meaning.

(Daniel 7:25) And he will speak even words against the Most High, and he will harass continually the holy ones themselves of the Supreme One. And he will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, and times and half a time.

(Daniel 12:7) And I began to hear the man clothed with the linen, who was up above the waters of the stream, as he proceeded to raise his right [hand] and his left [hand] to the heavens and to swear by the One who is alive for time indefinite: “It will be for an appointed time, appointed times and a half. And as soon as there will have been a finishing of the dashing of the power of the holy people to pieces, all these things will come to their finish.”

(Revelation 12:14) But the two wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent.

All of those future repeating prophecies are the parallels of the Revelation 11:2 42 months, Revelation 11:3 1260 days, the Revelation 13:5 42 months. Revelation 12:6 1260 days is from the “first witnessing” of the past, fulfilled only once in that Revelation 12:1-6 context of 1914-1918.

(Revelation 11:2-3) But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary], cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 3 And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.

(Revelation 13:5-6) And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven.

But, that is why the Revelation 12:14 deliverance for this final 1260 days ministry has TWO “wings” of symbolic “deliverance” meaning of that future repeating deliverance of Christ for the final 1260 days warning, of the future. (It is a deliverance from the catastrophe apostate Jehovah’s witnesses will be plummeting into next (Dan8:13-14; Rev8; Dan11:41), for the temple recovery of Daniel 8:14’s “right condition”, and Revelation 9’s desolation “abyss” release (Eze37), and into its eventual final ministry 1260 days aftermath.)

This “time, times, and half a time”, 42 months, and 1260 days, is noted in triple denoted symbolisms of literal timing to understand it is certain, required, and related to the future “seven times” completion unto the total “end of the gentile times” rulership of planet Earth. That is the end of the “8th King” World Government which will also be coming, as it triggers the Christ arrival for the salvation sheep-sweep first via Revelation 14 in the entire Daniel 12:11 1290 days, unto Daniel 12:12.

2. The open salvation “week” of seven years as also “seven times” in principle. It is the final 1260 days ministry and the Christ arrival period it leads to in Daniel 12:11’s 1290 days as the final seven approximate years in that “week”. (Gen7:4; Dan9:27)

3. The “seven times” of Christ’s own ministry completion as Revelation 14’s Christ “second coming” events as related to the final Daniel 12:11 1290 days of the Christ open salvation peace offer of Revelation 14:6-7, is how that final 3.5 years is part of Christ “first arrival” 3.5 years: for seven years total as also the “seven times” principle.

Thus, every prophecy of the Bible will be encapsulated in Daniel 4’s largest “gentile times” and “seven times” meaning framework and spiritual principles.

The Daniel 4 Babylon 609-605 BCE Ascension Gentile Times Benchmark Update

Like Daniel 2, in Daniel 4 God began to map the national “gentile” history along with Israel in parallel, at that time to mark the “Babylon” vs. “Israel” main rival sovereign-conflict benchmark and meaning for all Bible sovereign prophecy to follow.

That is how the Daniel 4 “tree” takes on its dual meaning, with its dual banding and even its dual citation. (Dan4:10-17; Dan4:20-23) It has dual applications and even covers both world “chop downs” from the flood, to the future.

Daniel 4’s “seven times” principle even goes beyond that, into the reign of Christ’s ‘Lord of the Sabbath’ ruling “week” of the last 1000 years as the ultimate “seven times” conclusion of 7000 years.

Now the “gentile times” which ended 2520 years in 1914, is ultimately the symbology of “8th King” “Tree” World Government to also be “chopped down” by Christ.

(Daniel 11:30) And [King North Globalists] will actually go back and hurl denunciations against the holy covenant and act effectively; and he will have to go back and will give consideration to those leaving the holy covenant. (in JWs)

Now as the first warning, with timed prophecy affirming it in the 1914 era, is ignored and even denounced by the Anglo-American globalist-elites (Rev13:11-18), there will be only one way to resolve this issue of sovereignty in the future: Superior Force.

And that Christ conquest will come after Christ secures all who surrender to him in Revelation 14:6-8 during the whole Daniel 12:11 final 1290 days “last half of the week” of that worldwide Kingdom-offered and backed, complete open salvation opportunity. (Dan9:27)

Prophecies with Repeated Descriptions
Daniel 4 Application Prophecy/Record Prophecy/Principle
Pre-Deluge World
Daniel 4:10-17 Noachian Period, Demon Rule Genesis 6-9 Jude 6
Nephilim Demigod Rulership
Post-Deluge World
Daniel 4:20-23 Modern National Rulership Genesis 10 Romans 13
Modern Globalized Rulership Future Revelation 16:13-16
World Government Revelation 17:8-17 Ezekiel 38
Daniel 8:25 Daniel 2:31-45
Daniel 7:23-26 Daniel 12:7,11
Daniel 11:45 Revelation 19:19-21

But, as stated, this study will not be going into that huger Daniel 4 meaning in detail.

For this section, only what is applicable to the future Christ “chop down” of the future final rival “gentile” “tree” of world government, for his own immortal “super tree” takeover of the Revelation 11:15 “Kingdom of the World”, will be covered. That larger meaning, even through the Christ millennium, will be looked at briefly at the end of this Daniel 4 Super Tree study.

In this way, Daniel 4 is the hugest “super prophecy” of them all, it encompasses all Bible prophecy and all of Christ’s coming ruling period and meanings.

The Revelation 11:15 “Kingdom of the World” is the “kingdom prepared for you” [human begins] of Mathew 24:34, as the physical Kingdom domain of Earth, under Christ’s Messianic Kingdom and the Earthly actuality worldwide, into which “Kingdom”, humans must be taking part in the “rootstock” “membership” of that [physical] Kingdom aspect on Earth, and also its “administration” portion.

(Ephesians 1:8-10) This he caused to abound toward us in all wisdom and good sense, 9 in that he made known to us the sacred secret of his will. It is according to his good pleasure which he purposed in himself 10 for an administration at the full limit of the appointed times, namely, to gather all things together again in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth.

In that way, even the literal “gathered” animals, not just the symbols of human systems, are also restored in the Christ Super Tree recovery of the “Kingdom of the World.

(Daniel 4:12) Under it the beast of the field would seek shade, and on its boughs the birds of the heavens would dwell, and from it all flesh would feed itself.

By that future totality of meaning the Daniel 4 “Super Tree” is God’s and Christ’s Eternal “Kingdom of the World” for “Last Adamic” perfect humans.

(Matthew 25:31-34) When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world

(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

Unlike Daniel 2,7,8,11-12 and Revelation 13,17, which are structured upon know national components and gentile histories, Daniel 4 is a very general symbolic overview, but its meaning is enormous. And it also equates to the same meaning of all the other sovereign prophecies noted.

Because the 2520 years prophecy connects to 1914 and its 2520 days prophecy then starting in its 1914-1918 1260 days “first witnessing” cycle with the emergence of the “7th King” system and “8th King” designate “image” rival “gentile” “tree” powers, that seven times principle connected to Revelation 11’s “seven times” as 2520 days.

In fact, the Biblical prophecy based “seven times” principle has been applying from this prophecy the whole time. 

Because the known Jehovah’s witnesses date+event error of the 607 BCE Jerusalem destruction assumption undermines the original ministry basis as far as Daniel 4’s prophecy is related, that is to be rectified in the final 1260 days “last witnessing” of the future.

But, as that completes, that will also complete 1260 days “again” (Rev10:11), in “two witnesses” as 2520 days as this whole “seven times” meaning completes in the future.

(Revelation 10:11) And they say to me: “You must prophesy AGAIN (1260 days more) with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings.”

Now by two “witnessing” 1260 days ministry in 1914-1918 to repeat for a final ministerial warning and open salvation offer in a future 1260 days, the 2520 days as “seven times” completes as related to Daniel 4.

Therefore, in the Daniel 4 largest prophecy framework in the Bible as to its overall relationship to every sovereign prophecy, Daniel 4 is unique. The global “Super Tree” of Daniel 4 has pictured BOTH rejected gentile rival world power development and rejected divine rulership based by God in Jerusalem, [in parallel], and will continue to do so.

But this time, King-Priest Christ will not be a rejected ruler! Only the world government “tree” will.

(Revelation 11:15) And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”

This is because the final “tree” will also be “chopped down” in “8th King” World Government in the future, to be replaced by Christ’s “Kingdom of the World” “Super Tree” of Christ, as the whole world transitions from “gentile domination” to that of the New Jerusalem of Revelation 21-22.

(Daniel 7:12) But as for the rest of the beasts, their rulerships were taken away, and there was a lengthening in life given to them for a time (Dan12 “time of the end” periods) and a season (1000 year rule of Christ).

And as shown in the preserved “rootstock”, then to come into Christ’s “last Adamic” perfection, humans and “gentile nations” “have their kingdom assured to them” as in the assurance God gave Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4. (Dan7:12)

(Daniel 4:26) And because they said to leave the rootstock of the tree, your kingdom will be sure to you after you know that the heavens are ruling.

That preserved “rootstock” is now based on all mankind since after the Edenic sin and into the time of Noah and the divine deluge judgment on that rejected demon world government period (Gen6), thus, past, present, and future. Now, the “sprout” in Christ resumes also the physical aspect of his “Kingdom of the World” rulership, as his Messianic Kingdom objective for that one thousand year reign.

(Zechariah 3:8) Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout!

“Sprout” is the new eternal “Immortal Super Tree” being regenerated into new mankind “born again” also into the physical Christ “last Adam” perfection.

As the first “timed prophecy” into which all prophecy and timed prophecy registers to completion in the future and into Christ’s reign, Daniel 4 identifies the “tree” as a rejected rulership principle which God has angelically “chopped down” as set by His own “appointed times”.

Ultimately, it is for the Immortal Super Tree of Christ’s rule which never will be “chopped down”, but “live forever”.

Now, as stated earlier God designed the Daniel 4 “tree prophecy” in a general way, with the ability to extend to huge meanings and implications across all prophecy.

One example, is that when Christ “chops down” the future “8th King World Government “gentile tree” of the future, he will also be “un-banding” the former divine ban on the now spiritual “Israel” “rootstock” as its “Kingdom Tree” which got “chopped down” back in 586 BCE, of all former and future mankind pictured in all the “chop down” judgments.

Though through Christ the spiritual “copper banding” has been removed when Christ came to God’s Kingdom in 1914 CE as the Davidic now Super-King Immortal, that has to take on “Kingdom of the World” physical “iron un-banding” in the future, to begin the Last Adamic transformation of all humans, past, present, and future.

In the ultimate duality, Christ is the immortal spirit who is also the immortal human, even if he only applies that perfect immortal potential to future human beings, his achievement equated to also the human immortality Adam and the woman lost in Eden in Genesis 3:22 due to sin.

THAT is the “last Adam” to be offered to pretty much all humans in the future. This duality is then, the Christ Messianic Kingdom “Super Tree” in the spiritual world is the pattern for God and Christ’s Revelation 11:15 “Kingdom of the World” “Super Tree” in the physical paradise earth, which planet Earth will be “re-created” into. (Matt19:28; Rev22:1-5)

Thus, God’s will, will truly be done on Earth, as in Heaven to the immortal degree. (Matt6:10) 

And Daniel 4 had to be able to hold the logic for all these applications as the undercover Super Prophecy of the whole Bible, the “sacred secret” Mother of All Timed Prophecy!

(Zechariah 3:8-9) Hear, please, O Joshua the high priest, you and your companions who are sitting before you, for they are men [serving] as portents; for here I am bringing in my servant Sprout! 9 For, look! the stone that I have put before Joshua! Upon the one stone there are seven eyes. Here I am engraving its engraving,’ is the utterance of Jehovah of armies, ‘and I will take away the error of that land in one day.’

Thus, post-conquest and millennial Christ, as “sprout” (Zech3:8-9), will then begin the one thousand year reign and “growth” of that Immortal Christ Super Tree, as even willing humans are guided, not just to everlasting life by virtue of Christ’s sacrifice, but also human immortal indestructible life by their own then perfect merit, via Revelation 22:14 and Revelation 21:22-27. (Gen3:22 revisited with granted access for the obedient)

No wonder God has allowed this modern-JW “operation of error” to try to undermine this prophecy.

When this latest Jehovah’s witnesses “gentile temple” is “chopped down” by God by worldly powers, and when the whole Daniel 4 does come out, it will be massive in rectified “little scroll” supporting import.

Thus, Daniel 4 had to be dynamically symbolic to eventually encapsulate, for more proving features and logic, all these applications and even more, as that seemingly less significant prophecy is actually truly the Super Prophecy of the whole Bible.

“Time of the End” 1-2-3 Timed Prophecy Periods

As Daniel 4 also ties to Daniel 11-12 in meaning in the final globalist world government drive of Daniel 11:42-45 in the future, thus was set the theme for the fact Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 12 will contain the final timeframes of the future, in that order presented in the prophecy, to also complete the 2520 days “seven times” of that final ministry**.

“Time of the End” 1-2-3 Timed Prophecy Periods
(1) Temple Judgment (2) Final Ministry/Open Salvation** (3) World Government/Christ Arrival/Open Salvation
1150 or 2300 Days 1260 days 1290 Days
Daniel 8:13-14 events and timing; Daniel 12:1,7 events and timing Daniel 12:11 events and timing;
Revelation 8 – Temple Judgment Parallel Daniel 7:25; Revelation 11:1-7; 12:14; 13:3-7 Daniel 11:44-45; Dan7:26; Dan8:25; Rev17:12-18; Dan2:44
Zechariah 3:1-9; Malachi 3:1-4 Parallel Revelation 9-:11:10 Revelation 9-:11:11-12
Trumpets 1-4 are the parallel of temple judgment Trumpets 5-6 ministerial recovery to “final witnessing” Trumpet 7 ends this period as Christ Conquest
Revelation 16 – Global-Crisis Context Revelation 16:10-16 Revelation 16:17-20
First four “plagues” global-developmental crisis parallel Plagues 5-6 darkening and gathering 7th Plague as Christ arrival
1 Peter 4:17; Revelation 14:6-7 open salvation offer
“Week” of Open Salvation; Genesis 7:4; Daniel 9:27
Seven Plagues as the Global Context of the Seven Trumpet Spiritual Missions
Great Tribulation Phase 1 “Tribulation of those days” “sword stroke” Great tribulation Phase 2 “Four Winds”

Now please note, this “time of the end’ of the “last days” overall, is just “the end” of the rival “tree” as world government, “chopped down” by Christ.

It is not the “end of the world”, as it is Christ’s “Kingdom of the World” for all people, taken over fully at that time. And note, Daniel 12:12’s 1335 days is omitted from this table, because it is the “8th covenant” preparation in that world peace compact under the future completed Messianic Kingdom, for the Marriage of the Lamb and its “great crowd” “invited” ones. (Rev19:1-9)

That final 1260 days “seven times” completing final “witnessing” ministry will have arrived and completed as generally timed to the complete World Government “8th King” “Tree” phase (Dan12:11), and thus, the Revelation 14 Christ arrival it shall trigger, which it will have been giving warning of.

Daniel 4 Tree Symbology

Now as the Daniel 2 puzzling-dilemma turned out effective and beneficial for King Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel (and the rest of the wise-men sages), King Neb calls on his right hand prophecy seer-man, Daniel, to decipher this little message from God.

(Daniel 4:20-23) The tree that you beheld, that grew great and became strong and the height of which finally reached the heavens and which was visible to all the earth, 21 and the foliage of which was fair, and the fruit of which was abundant, and on which there was food for all; under which the beasts of the field would dwell, and on the boughs of which the birds of the heavens would reside, 22 it is you, O king, because you have grown great and become strong, and your grandeur has grown great and reached to the heavens, and your rulership to the extremity of the earth. 23 “‘And because the king beheld a watcher, even a holy one, coming down from the heavens, who was also saying: “CHOP the tree down, and RUIN it. However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth, but with a banding of iron and of copper, among the grass of the field, and with the dew of the heavens let it become wet, and with the beasts of the field let its portion be until seven times themselves pass over it…

Now all the same sovereign conflict “chop down the tree”, and all the same preserved “leave its rootstock” world system of creation “in the earth” principles, for preservation in the future, are also present in the Daniel 4 prophecy, as recited a second time in the prophecy, this time by Daniel.  (All literally repeated prophecies have dual application, or more as in Daniel 4:10-17; Dan4:20-23))

Thus, these dual prophecies like in Daniel 7:7-8 and Daniel 7:23-26 regarding the “fourth beast” as finally world government, are for that same meaning too, regarding the “tree”, for final future application, since the 2520 [years] prophecy is already completed. (Also Rev17:8a and Rev17:8b) And thus, Daniel 4 is expanding to encompass more divine prophecy timings of the future.

That is also why this prophecy [alone] was understood in accuracy in Charles Russell’s era, and retained as such later, as all of his other prophecies were superceded by the arrival of the “7th King” and “8th King” designate “image” in prophecy in 1914-1919. 

The Rutherford era was the greatest advancement in prophecy understanding EVER for that time period of 1916-1930, as the Anglo-American “7th King” national-alliance arose along with the globalist-system League of Nations as the now known “8th King” “image” in its first step of four to world government. Now, real world power development was fully matching Revelation 13 and Daniel 12 events and timings of prophecy, since the 1914-1919 era. And it was a true “gentile” world government vs. God’s world government type of conflict setup, in the making, which will repeat in exact form, but to completion, in the future..

Thus, Daniel 4’s “appointed times of the nations” was the first major sovereign prophecy ever understood in principle accuracy at that scale of meaning. (The errors the JW temple trespassers now keep in place are to be rectified in the final ministry, they can be dated properly and fixed with even more evidence, and that also accurate in historic “gentile” and Israel history parallels.)

The message that the gentile rulers of this world have “had their day” is the truth to come forth in the final 1260 days of the future (Rev11:3), to be affirmed fully, after world government is permitted to complete in the future, to then trigger the Christ arrival.

1. Christ set the “cease the trampling” as Kinged by God in God’s Kingdom in 1914, as the “copper band” was removed spiritually for his approved heavenly-anointed “brothers and sisters” to follow him alive from that “rootstock” into Heaven from that time, and that by a timed judgment. But, his rule was not to be felt on Earth yet, for good reason.

2. As future completed Messianic Kingdom King of kings, Christ will fully cease all rival “gentile” rulership ON EARTH and in the “heavenly places” from the demons. But, that is only when the Revelation 11 2520 days as “seven times” also completes in the future after the final 1260 days “witness” is given. Then, Christ “chops down the tree” of the then rival completed “8th King” World Government, for Christ to then rule Earth, as that 2520 days timeframe also began in 1914, as the 2520 years ended.

And even with Jehovah’s witnesses known Daniel 4 applied erred date+event errors, those can and will be fixed for the final ministry. From the IBSA days, Jehovah’s witnesses did get the sovereign conflict theme to be resolved by God and Christ, but they botched the date+event actual history by erred assumption. It was a critical error by date+event assumption, but it too, can be rectified.

In the meantime, such stubborn resolve to guard known fixable-errors to discredit this mega-prophecy meaning, has now helped identify the final apostasy in Jehovah’s witnesses in Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-35. 

Moreover, this apostasy will have “called into question” the very prophecies which can then be rectified and updated which will revisit every true “gentile times” meaning, again (Rev10:11), with total renewed focus on the real sovereign issue affecting Earth, for the final 1260 days ministry. (Rev11:3)

That final “witness” ministry will also fully expose that final apostasy now in Jehovah’s witnesses (2Thes2:3-4), as to why this error was kept in place so long. (Dan8:12; Dan11:32a; Zech3:1-3) The total prophecy summary (Rev10:5-7), is then made possible by removing these key apostate errors and the incompletion they create, which now undermines the whole prophecy.

(Revelation 10:5-7) And the angel that I saw standing on the sea and on the earth raised his right hand to heaven, 6 and by the One who lives forever and ever, who created the heaven and the things in it and the earth and the things in it and the sea and the things in it, he swore: “There will be no delay any longer; 7 but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

And when Daniel 4 is fully rectified in complete manner in the “final witnessing” of the 1260 days of the future, every “little scroll” “message” and former 1260 days sovereign-time-limit “seven times” theme of world rulership to be given to Christ since 1914-1918’s first 1260 days, will be “revisited” in final “two witnessings” form, at the same time, as the world government to be “chopped down” is also completing for Christ’s Axe.

Daniel 4 Tree Symbology: Specific Detailed Table

Thus, the simple “there is only so much time” meaning of Daniel 4 and other prophecies as a whole final continuum to world government and then the Christ arrival of the future, is the simple meaning to be reconsidered again. 

Daniel 4 also encapsulates the already past “chopped down” “tree” events, to know certainly the world government rival ruler of the future “tree” in this world will also have a prophecy stated and outlined divine time limit upon it.

By apostates undermining prophecy, now with Jehovah’s witnesses engaged in that “operation of error”, that kind of subterfuge has always been trying to deny, truly, the basic truth that there is only so much time. Very simple.

And God has helped out by timing even the prophecy steps of Daniel 8:14 to Daniel 12:7 to Daniel 12:11 to the true end of that temporarily permitted sovereign-allowance “leased” timeframe in the future, over several final years, as in the table above.

Daniel 4 laid out the largest overall “seven times” timed meaning of all “rival gentile” sovereign prophecy unto the Christ future arrival.

Jehovah’s witnesses almost had the whole picture until their fictional date+event nightmare undermined all Bible study at Bethel for the close-minded clam-brains of the Governing Body farce. Therefore, the [completed] 2520 years will be applicable, but the WTBTS Time Machine dating will have to be flushed with that apostate ministry also ceased in the future as Daniel 8:13-14, which will then truly “tie the whole prophecy together”.

Daniel 4 Tree Symbology: Specific Detailed
Symbol and Specific Meaning
Pre-Deluge World “Tree”
Tree Rootstock Birds/Beasts Earth Chopped Down Seven Times
Demon Guided Since Eden Symbolic/Literal Earth Divine Judgment From Deluge
Human Based Same Global
Divinely Limited Time Preserved/ Noah’s Family Divine Deluge
Divine Judgment Rulership Termination Rulership Neutralized Metal Seven Times  
“Chop the Tree Down” “Tree” Chopped Down Metal Banding Iron 4382 Years
Noachian World Explained Later
Divine Judgments Rulership Expiration Rulership Neutralized Metal Seven Times  
Divine Deluge 2048 BCE-2034 Restrictive Banding Iron Under Strongest Divine Ban (Jude1:6)
Post-Deluge World “Tree”
Tree Rootstock Birds/Beasts Earth Chopped Down Seven Times
Temporary Rulership Humanity Symbolic/Literal Earth Future Gentile: 609 BCE
Demon Guided Since Genesis 10 Same Historic Divine Judgment 70 Years
Human Based Nationalized Divine: 607 BCE
National Governments Globalized 70 Years
World Government Global: 607 BCE
2520 Year
Divine Judgment Rulership Termination Rulership Neutralized Metal Seven Times  
Future World Judgment Future Future Future Varies and Connects to Revelation 11
“Chop the Tree Down” “Tree” Chopped Down Metal Banding Copper Details Explained Later
Divine Judgments Rulership Expiration Rulership Neutralized Metal Seven Times  
Babylon Destruction 609-539 BCE Restrictive Banding Copper 70 Active Years 609-539 BCE
Israel Sovereign “Trampling” 607-537 BCE Restrictive Banding Iron Under Permitted Ban (Luke21:24)
Preview World Judgment (1914) 1914 Principle/Satan Cast Copper Revelation 11 First 1260 Days (1914-1918)
Future World Judgment Future (Circa 2034) Future Iron Revelation 11 Gauged 2520 Days
2034 Basis Explained Later
“Last Days” to “Time of the End” of the “Last Days”
Finality: “Tree” Rulership Becomes God and Christ’s “Kingdom of the World”; Revelation 11:15
Objective: Comprehensive “Earth” Restoration Under Christ’s Implied “Eternal Tree” Rule
Seven Times 2520 Years Daniel 4  
1914 Benchmark Gentile Times Conclude First 1260 Days of 2520 Days Total    
God’s Kingdom Event 1914 CE Begins
Seven Times 2520 Days Revelation 11 Principle Prophecy Prophecy Prophecy
Future 1260 Days Completion Ministry
Messianic Kingdom Event Daniel 4 “Gentile Times” Revelation 11:2-3 Revelation 12:14 Revelation 13:5
Future Benchmark   Final 1260 Days of 2520 Days Total    
Final 1260 Days Ministry Ends in Future Revelation 11:1-10 Zechariah 4
Christ Arrival Revelation 11:11-12 Revelation 16:17 Revelation 14 Daniel 7:25-26
Messianic Kingdom Event Future, circa 2034 CE [4]
Last “Week” of Open Salvation Opportunity Genesis 7:4 Daniel 9:27 Constant Feature Removed is Daniel 12:11
1260 Days + 1290 Days Open Salvation Daniel 9:27 Daniel 12:7 Daniel 12:11
Genesis 7:4
Global Sheep Gathering Precedes Christ Kingdom Conquest by 1290 Days; Daniel 12:11
2034 Based on 1914 + 120 Years Genesis 6:3 Genesis 6:3 Genesis 7:4 Daniel 9:27
1. Seven Times are Approximately Concurrent on Both Sovereign Entities
A. Gentile system exercises sovereignty “seven times” (See Rev13:5-7 for future half requirement)
B. While Divine system sovereignty impeded “seven times”
At the same time.
2. Future Final Seven Times Expiration is in Revelation 11
3. Final Divine Sovereignty “chops the tree down” as 8th King World Government and Prevails
As Rival Sovereignty is Deposed “chopped down”
Timed “Seven Times” Limits Converge: 2034
Base: Gentile Times “Seven Times” as 2520 Years
1. Adamic World “Seven Times” as 6041 Years
2. Divine Deluge “Seven Times” as 4382 Years
3. Christ Arrivals Completion “Seven Times” as 2037 Years
4. Revelation 11 “Seven Times” Overall as 119 Years
5. Revelation 11 “Seven Times” as 2520 Days
6. Christ Seven Years “Seven Times” Ministry
7. Open Salvation “Week” Seven Times Principle

Seven Times Total Applications

Now we can look at some of the other larger seven times meanings of Daniel 4.

This table below, which summarizes all the main seven times applications in Daniel 4 into the future, is not predicting the event to mark 2034, only that 2034 will be a significant point in future prophecy and history. 

The Christ arrival [speculation] for 2034 is just to complete the concept of those final seven times spans. Moreover, by that time of the future, it will be happening in some manner now unknown, no need for a “forecast” by  that time anyways. Christ will be taking over from parousia to completion of the manifestation, [directly], anyways.

Daniel 4 Tree Symbology: Modern World Seven Times Begin: 607 BCE
“Seven Times” = 2520 Years 7 360  Years ETCPM: 1914 Benchmark
Seven Times Divisor Quotient      
1. Creation to Christ Conquest          
“Seven Times” = 6041 Years 7 863 Years ETCC: 2037 1
2. Divine Deluge to 2034          
“Seven Times” = 4382 Years 7 626 Years ETCA: 2034 2
3. Christ Birth to 2037          
“Seven Times” = 2037 Years 7 291 Years ETCC: 2037 3
4. Rev11 “Seven Times” Overall          
“Seven Times” = 119 Years 7 17 Years ETCA: 2034 4
5. Rev11 “Seven Times” 2W          
“Seven Times” = 2520 days 2/7 1260/360 Days ETCA: 2034 5
Christ Arrival Two Final Seven Times Completions        
6. Christ Ministry Completion          
“Seven Times” = 7 Years Total 1 7 Post Arrival: 2034+ 6
7. Open Salvation “Week”          
 “Seven Times”=”1 Week” of Years 1 7 Completion: 2031-2037 7
Legend Description   Timeframe/Note    
ETCPM Established Time of Christ Parousia Mode 1914
ETCA Estimated Time of Christ Arrival Future Approximation
ETCC Estimated Time of Christ Conquest Future Approximation
Christ Arrival 1 God’s Kingdom All “Parousia” 1914
Christ Arrival 2 Messianic Kingdom Parousia and Full Glory Future
Witness 1 First 1260 Days of “Two Witnesses” Revelation 8-11 First Cycle
Witness 2 Last 1260 Days of “Two Witnesses” Revelation 8-11 Final Cycle
Final “Seven Times” 2520 Days Defined Total 1260+1260 Days Future
See Seven Times Comprehensive Calculation Table
1. 2034 is a marked Biblical year based on the 1914 basis date as a parallel symbolism of Noah’s world’s last days for the Genesis 6:3 120 years timed limit
of that time in relation to Christ’s statement of Matthew 24:36-39.
2. We still cannot know the “day and the hour” but the year can be ascertained even if the event which is yet to mark it is not known.
3. Note that the Speculation of 2034 is for either the Christ Arrival or the Christ Conquest which Christ Arrival
includes the Daniel 12:11 1290 days of open salvation “parousia”.
4. The 2031 Christ Arrival is possible as is the 2034 Christ Arrival speculative basis used here.
5. See Seven Times Comprehensive Calculation Table
(Genesis 6:3) After that Jehovah said: “My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.”
(Matthew 24:36-37) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
(Genesis 7:4) For in just seven days more I am making it rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will wipe every existing thing that I have made off the surface of the ground.”
(Daniel 9:27) “And he must keep [the] covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.
June 2019

All Seven Times Spans

Daniel 4’s “seven times” principle has applications since the time of the creation of man and the fall into sin in Eden’s time, with even a principle its “seven times” divine timing will also continue into the Christ arrival in the “seventh day” completion of the “Lord of the Sabbath” for that 7000 years “big picture” in God’s purposed will for “heaven and earth”.

The table above lists “seven times” prophecies yet to complete.

This table is a little different, it also includes some “seven times” periods which have already completed, along with some other differences.

All Seven Times Timeframes
Judgment Timeframe Start Concludes Note
1. Edenic 7041 Years “Founding of the World” Post Millennium
2. Noachian 4382 Years 2438 BCE Christ Arrival Assumes 2034
3. Gentile Times 2520 Years 607 BCE 1914
4. Gentile Times 2520 Days 1914 CE Pre-Christ Arrival
Open Salvation “Week”
5. Genesis 7:4 1260-1290 days Unknown Christ Conquest
6. Daniel 9:27 1260-1290 days Unknown Christ Conquest
7. Christ 7 Year Ministry 7 Years (1290 Days) Christ Conquest
Completion 1290 Days Completion Unknown
Revelation 14:6-8
Notes: The 2034 Christ arrival is an assumption, though we know the year is marked, the event which will manifest is unknown.

The [All Seven Times Timeframes]  table above excludes the [Daniel 4 Tree Symbology: Modern World Seven Times Begin: 607 BCE]:

1. Creation to Christ Conquest,

3. Christ Birth to 2037,

4. Rev11 “Seven Times” Overall, and

7. Single Open Salvation “Week”

The above [All Seven Times Timeframes] table lists:

3 above. The already completed 2520 years prophecy from 607 BCE to 1914 CE (3 above), and;

5 above. Both “week of open salvation” principles in Genesis 7:4 (5 above) and;

6 above. Daniel 9:27 (6 above) separately and;

1. above. Adds the creation to post-millennial to 7041 year “week” (1 above) not in the above table [Daniel 4 Tree Symbology: Modern World Seven Times Begin: 607 BCE].

It is not a 1-7 correlated table to the [Daniel 4 Tree Symbology: Modern World Seven Times Begin: 607 BCE] table in its 1-7 numbering, it is just another overview of these Daniel 7 “seven times” principles.

Sevens Times Prophecy Connections

This table covers the Babylon era seventy years spans as also “seven times” applicable.

This table below also lists some larger seven times meanings, then into the seventy years from the 586 BCE Jerusalem temple desolation to its 516 BCE second temple completion as it connects in prophecy to the Christ future “temple completion” principle to the Zechariah 4 to its Revelation 11 “seven times” connection, and its final 2520 days future temple completion meaning.

Sevens Times Prophecy Connections
Seven Times
Original Basis “Seven Times” Application Target Inception Prophecy Timeframe
“Seven Times” Kingdom of the World1 Noachian World Sin/Flood Genesis 6-7 4000-2300 BCE*
From Edenic Sin 7000 Years
From Divine Deluge Unknown
“Seven Times” Kingdom of the World2 Modern World Future Christ Conquest Revelation 11:15-19
Seven Lunar Years of Years 2520 Years Future Revelation 11 1914-1918
360 Days = 360 Years Seven Times
7 x 360 Years Inception
World Basis Overall Time Limit
2520 Years to 2520 Days Gentile Gentile Times Daniel 4
Multi-millennial “seven times” as 2520 years ended in 1914
Revelation 11 “seven times” as 2520 days began in 1914
“3.5 Times” = 1914-1918 first 1260 days “witnessing” ministry
“3.5 Times” = Future final 1260 days “witnessing” ministry
“Seven Times” completes as 2520 DAYS
Prophecy Basis Application Target Benchmark Event Prophecy Benchmark Date
Seventy Years Gentile Times Babylon Gentile Babylon Cessation Jeremiah 25:12 609-539 BCE
Seventy Year “Seven Times” Connection for 609 BCE – 539 CE King Neb’ Dynasty Deposed 609-539 BCE
Seventy Year “Seven Times” Connection for 607 BCE – 1914 CE “Gentile” Sovereign Expiration Jerusalem “Seven Times” based 607 BCE-1914 CE
Seventy Years Divine Sovereign Parallel Jerusalem Kingly “Trampling” Luke 21:24 607-537 BCE
Seventy Year “Seven Times” Parallel Connection to Recovery Emancipation 607-537 BCE
Seventy Year “Seven Times” Parallel Connection to Divine Sovereignty 607 BCE – 1914 CE
Seventy Years Divine Temple Link Jerusalem Temple “Trampling” Zechariah 6:9-15 586-516 BCE
Seventy Year “Seven Times” Connection to Zechariah Temple Prophecy 586-516 BCE
Second Temple Completion Second Temple Completion Zechariah 3-4 586 BCE to 516 BCE
Revelation 11 Connection Application Target Benchmark Event Prophecy Benchmark Date
Direct Connection to Revelation 11 Zechariah 4 Rev11:2 “Holy City” Divine Temple Completion Zechariah 3-4 Future
Revelation 11 Final Ministry Zechariah 3:4-9 “Two Witnesses” Christian Ministerial Completion Zechariah 3 Future 1260 Days
Revelation 11 Final Time Limit Application Target Benchmark Event Prophecy Benchmark Date
2520 Days “Seven Times” Meaning Holy City Two Witnessings Revelation 11:2 1914-1918/Future
“Appointed Times of the Nations” Comprehensive Completion All Applications Final Witnessing Ceased Luke 21:24 Future
Revelation 11:1-10 Future 1260 Days
Daniel 12:11 1260 Days Ends
Revelation 11 Continuum Application Target Benchmark Event Prophecy Benchmark Date
Sovereign Connection 1914 CE First 1260 Days First “Witness” Witnessing One Revelation 11:3 1914-1918
Sovereign Finality Future Final 1260 Days Final “Witness” Witnessing Two Revelation 11:3 Future Repeat
Final 1260 Days expires into Christ Arrival
Christ Completes his Ministry Daniel 12:11 1290 Days Global Revelation 14:6-8 Revelation 14 Future
Christ Covenant
Seven Years Christ Ministry Global Christ Christ Completes Ministry Revelation 14:6-7 Future
First Christ Ministry Regional to Global Israel First Christ Arrival Luke 1:30-33 ca. 1 BCE/1 CE
First Christ Ministry Global Planet Earth Final Christ Arrival Revelation 11:12-19 ca. 1 BCE/1 CE
Christ ‘Eternal Father’ [Last Adam] Recovers “Tree” in Regeneration Rule as the Global “12 Tribes”; Matthew 19:28 
Christ Bride Implied ‘Eternal Mother’ [Last Eve] Aids Recovery of “Kingdom of the World” “Tree”; Isaiah 54
Revelation 21-22 
* Approximate Dating 
Dating shown is within accepted variance of calendar dating issues 
Dating shown harmonizes with accepted global Biblical chronologies and “gentile” history
Dating shown rectifies and removes erred JW fantasy dating issues which affects all pre 537 BCE dates in JW research

Daniel 4 ‘Gentile Times’ Prophecy Seventy Years Framework to the Final Revelation 11 “Seven Times” of the Future

In the “seven times” as seventy years principles in that 609-605 BCE to 537 BCE marked history period, all the applicable “seven times” of seventy years meanings all unfold in the same sovereign drama period of the rise of Babylon and the fall of Jerusalem, and then the fall of Babylon to Cyrus and the Medo-Persians.

1. The 609-607 BCE Babylon ascension connects 70 years ‘seven times’ to the 539-537 BCE Medo-Persian conquest;

2. The 607 BCE Babylon King Neb II (crown prince) co-regency connects 70 Years ‘seven times’ to the 537 BCE Medo-Persian liberation of Israel;

3. The 609 BCE start of the “trampling” of Judean kings, then connects to that same to 539-537 BCE Medo-Persian liberation of Israel period.

4. Thus, the 586 BCE Jerusalem and temple destruction connects 70 Years ‘seven times’ to 516 BCE second temple completion

5. In that total period of Israel’s sieges (605,597,586-587), and sub-optimum production capacity due to this predicament and exiles, to the 516 BCE Temple completion the “seventy sabbath” requirement, approximately 90 years time span gives enough time with some cushion, to effect all the required sabbaths for the land.

THAT temple connection is very important for bridging to the Haggai and Zechariah period of prophecy and the future temple completion (Rev11:15-19; Rev14:1; Zech4:6-9; Zech3:8-9), and its Christ King-Priest coronation as also the King of kings. (Zech6:9-15)

By that post-586 BCE connection to the Zechariah era “Temple Revelation” for that second temple completion drive in 516 BCE, that prophecy’s connection to Revelation 11 (via Zech3-4; Zech6:9-15), and its own 2520 DAYS as “seven times” to complete in the future (Rev10:11), is made complete.

In the current Jehovah’s witnesses erred chronology and event correlation, this connection is impossible to make at the present time. 

But, Jehovah’s witnesses terminal apostasy (Zech1-3; Dan11:32a), heading for the Daniel 8:13-14 temple judgment is why they cannot rectify this anyways.

Moreover, their final apostasy-leading overrun “gentile” impostors (Dan11:32a), and apostate “befouled” “priesthood” anointed (Zech3:3), are just more “gentile resistance” now using Jehovah’s witnesses and their errors as the modern Battering Ram on 1914.

It is actually the same type of sovereign conflict with God’s Kingdom as already described in Daniel 4. 

Apostate Jehovah’s witnesses are just further proof this is all true, and that this “gentile versus Jerusalem” is still ongoing.

(Daniel 8:12) And an (JW worldwide) army itself was gradually given over (to 8th King/King North infiltrative control), together with the constant [feature] (laced with profanations), because of transgression; (UN NGO and other sins); and it kept throwing truth to the earth (cover up, WT/JW misinformation), and it acted and had success. (Dan11:30 “act effectively” by the apostate subversion operation deployed through the Governing Body and WTBTS);

(Daniel 11:32) And those (Jehovah’s witnesses) who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, [King North] (Globalist-System) will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. (from the Governing Body “King North” placed apostasy leadership of the WTBTS)

And this is why Jehovah’s witnesses needed to be targeted as the most formerly advanced prophecy teaching ministry, to now stall for decades due to their illegal “Pharaoh” “King Neb” Governing Body, to now “trample” Jehovah’s witnesses into silence, in the future. But, it is still prophecy fulfilling none the less to the Christ purpose of the future.

(Daniel 8: 13) And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the (profaned and subverted) constant [feature] (of JW ministerial offerings) and of the transgression causing desolation (UN NGO alliance and co-promotions fulfilling Daniel 11:31b), to make both [the] holy place (temple “established place”; Dan8:11, “fortress” Daniel 11:31a) and [the] (JW worldwide) army things to trample on?” (in a first 8th King “trampling” “attack” aided temple desolation “fire” of Zechariah 3:2 and Revelation 8:3-5 starting the final prophetic cycle in a global tribulation forming); 14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.” (Temple purification completed in this time period parallel Zechariah 3:4-5, Revelation 8:1-5; 1150 days minimum or 2300 days probable);

Thus, by subtle but important details in Daniel 4, these major “seven times” completion connections can be made to Revelation.

And by a more careful analysis of actual “gentile times” history and the prophecy, the required complete rectification out of the Jehovah’s witnesses apostasy-placed discrediting errors for that reason, can also be “chopped down”, so to speak.

But, discrediting this massive Daniel 4 prophecy meaning is why these apostates and impostors now have subverted Jehovah’s witnesses to carry this out, as the final apostasy from the very same prophecy they cover up. (Dan8:11-14; Dan11:30-35)

Daniel 4 ‘Clockwork Gentile Times’ Prophecy Framework

Daniel 4 Gentile Times Prophecy—Part 1-5 with Tables

“Gentile Times” Appointed_Times_of_the_Nations_Reconsidered–AGAIN

Daniel 4 ‘Clockwork Gentile Times’ Prophecy Framework 
Prophecy Timeframe Timed Prophecies/ Sequential Milestone Notes Revelation 8-11
Era Daniel 4 Notes Timings Events   Trumpets Plagues
  Revelation 11            
Seven Times Clock Starts 609 BCE (Babylon) 607 BCE (Jerusalem)          
Daniel 4 2520 Years 609 BCE Babylon Ascension Connects 70 Years ‘Seven Times’ to 539 BCE Medo-Persian Conquest 1914+ Trumpets/
607 BCE Babylon King Neb II Connects 70 Years ‘Seven Times’ to 537 BCE Medo-Persian Liberation of Israel Plagues Form Future
586 BCE Jerusalem Destruction Connects 70 Years ‘Seven Times’ to 516 BCE Second Temple Completion Prophecy Master
Temple “Seven Times” as Seventy Years Marked from Temple Destruction 586 BCE to Second Temple Patterns and Period
These are All 70 Year “Seven Times” Gauging Meanings
Babylonian 607 BCE Date Marks Jerusalem “Trampling” by Sovereign Intrigues to 586 BCE Destruction
Main Daniel 4 “Seven Times” Framework Basis for the Rest of the Prophecies Begins in 1914 CE
1914   2520 Years “7 Times” Ends          
as 2520 Days “7 Times” Begins
1914 1914 1914 1914 1914 1914    
Revelation 11 7 Times Principle 1260 Days (1914-1918) 3.5 Times Temple Judgment
3.5 Times as 1290 Days (1919-1922) Ministry Recovery Ministry
1260 days Recovery
1335 Days (1922-1926) Ministry Proceeds Inception to Final Apostasy
Post 1919 Now in Jehovah’s witnesses
Future   Future Future Future Future Spiritual Global
Temple Judgment 1150 or Temple Daniel 8:13-14 Context Context
JW Apostate Downfall 2300 Days Judgment Revelation 8 Trumpets Plagues
Daniel 8:13-14   Inception Zechariah 3 T1 P1
Timed Prophecy   T2 P2
Verification Signal   T3 P3
    T4 P4
    Ministry T5 P5
    Recovery T6 P6
Final “Witnessing” 1260 Days Messianic Kingdom Completion Announcement Ministry 
7 Times Completes Open Salvation “Week” 1260 Days 3.5 Times Final Ministry “Witness 2” T6  P6
Final 3.5 Times 7 Times Principle Revelation 10:11 Revelation 11:3 1260 Days Completes  T6  P6
Final 1260 Days Revelation 11:3 Daniel 12:7 7 Times Completion T6  P6
2520 Days Total 2520 Days = 7 Times  T6 P6
1290 Days Christ Arrival     P7
Daniel 12:11 Salvation Phase Daniel 12:11
Daniel 7:26 Revelation 14:6-8
1335 Days Christ Conquest   T7  
Daniel 12:12 Marriage of Lamb Rev19:1-9; Ps45 Revelation 8-11
Millennial Kingdom Messianic Inception 
Revelation 20:4-15, Revelation 21-22
Revelation 8 Temple Judgment: Epic Downfall of Apostate Jehovah’s Witnesses Ministry and Organization 
Isaiah 66:6 1150/2300 Days Desolation Phase to Purified Recovery Phase
Daniel 8:13-14 Temple Judgment/Recovery Christ Temple Arrival 2Thess2:1-12 Malachi 3:1-5
Zechariah 3 1150/2300 Days
Daniel 7:25 Final Ministry Final Commission Revelation 10:5-11 Zechariah 3:6-9
Daniel 12:7 1260 Days
Revelation 11:2-3
Revelation 12:14
Revelation 13:5
Daniel 12:11
Daniel 7:26
Global Open Salvation Phase Christ Arrival Revelation 14:6-7 Matthew 24:31 Matthew 25:31
Revelation 14 1290 Days
Daniel 12:12 Christ Conquest World Government Revelation 11:15-18 Revelation 19:11-21
Revelation 11:15-19   Deposed Daniel 2:31-45 Daniel 8:25
Revelation 19:11-21     Daniel 11:44-45 Zephaniah 3:8-9
Psalm 45 Marriage of the Lamb
Revelation 21 Millennial Kingdom Reception
Daniel 4 Seven Times Ends into Revelation 11 Seven Times 1260 Days “First Witness” Start Up
Daniel 4 Seven Times Principle Ends in Revelation 11 Future 1260 Days “Last Witness” Completion
1. Daniel 4 “Gentile Times” Framework “Clock” Encompasses Timed Prophecies Shown
2. The Revelation 8-11 Seven Trumpets and the Revelation 15-16 Seven Plagues Converge into and Gauge the Timed Prophecies of the Future
3. Event 1: The Daniel 8:13-14 Temple Judgment Provides the Verification Timing and Apostate-JW Epic Downfall Initial Proof Events and Timing Affirmation
4. Approximately 90 years is then available to meet the seventy sabbath requirement over the whole 605 BCE to 516 BCE period.
July 2019

Daniel 4 Complete Overview References

The 607 BCE Babylon Ascension to 586 Jerusalem Destruction to 516 BCE Second Temple Completion Gentile Times Rectification

Now that the WTBTS centered apostates have fully discredited 1914 with a real 607 BCE Jerusalem destruction fiction, this explains how Babylon’s actual “gentile” ascension marks the 609-605 BCE prophecy benchmark era.



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